>> it was interesting. you know, he was almost confused by the question. he was like i can't think of scared. i said what about this or this? and he said, "you know, hence we had a lot of, right? in the white house we got a lot of hintsz. it was lpt like he was he couldn't fathom it. i realized in that moment that these a sass ins have a lot in common but so do our presidents. i think it's almost imagine that guy who works on a sky scraper on the 100th floor, that person every day when you're up there, the fear of heights is no longer a part of the job description. for our presidents, when you're surrounded by it everyday and all those secret service and everyone out there, that fear is not part of the job description 's not false bravado. he's 88 years old. but i just think it's not part of the job description. >> brown: very interesting. let me ask you last briefly, this novel involves a potential wide-scale conspiracy, right, through time as well. >> sure. brown: you have a history channel some show, where you look at conspiracies.